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Tuesday, October 11, 2011


Free speech.
The 1st amendment.

These are a part of our American culture. The 1960's in particular are well-known for their many protests and gatherings where well meaning people, mostly young college age people, took stands and spoke out against various injustices. The thing is, back then, there actually were real reasons to protest. Issues like civil rights, womens rights, the Viet Nam war, violence against others, racial discrimination, and so on. Back then, our country was divided on many of these important issues, and a very real social change was necessary, and in most cases, acheived by these types of protests.

How many of these poor underpriveleged young people have iphones and Blackberries, do you can be so hard.

Today we have a very different kind of protest going on. It's not protest that necessarily speaks of injustices to a particular cause, race, or creed, or an outcry against violence perpetrated upon innocent victims. No, it is moreso a whiney, rather self-indulgent cry akin to a spoiled child who wants more candy and can't have any.

eloquent and informed

They aren't wrong about things being screwed up. They aren't wrong to want  a better way of life. I just happen to feel they are wrong about how they intend to bring about any positive change. Even though there is a core of truth inside the message being expressed, it is extremely difficult for the rest of America to identify with the images of youthful fringe types spouting widely varying extremist reasons for the protests, as well as any offered solutions, in mostly inarticulate and semi-rational ways. Many who speak to interviewers have expressed rather ignorant and simplistic views concerning the issues.

*video taken from Fox News - a biased selection but a representative cross-section nonetheless

The age of the protesters appears to average about 21 years old, the age of a person who is starting out in their adult life and may be discovering the harsh realities of working hard for low wages, or struggling to find work at all. Also the age of inexperience, naive idealism, and frivolous self indulgent excess.

Don't get me wrong, I know all too well the unemployment rate is high. Believe me, I know, I've struggled mightily every month to make bill payments and survive for the past 2 1/2 years since I lost my own job. I do not receive unemployment or any other benefits from the government. Sure, it isn't easy, but I do whatever I can to make money (legally) mostly by extreme effort. By working with my own two hands, and looking for work constantly, continuing to look, and keep knocking on doors, and keep applying for every available job out there, and if and when I'm offered a job, I take it and work hard at it, even if it is for lower wages than I've previously had to work for. Simply said, I do whatever I can to take care of myself. I am responsible for my own life, not anyone else.
Not the government, not any corporation, and certainly not Wall Street, just me, myself, and I.

Life is hard sometimes. Okay, most of the time, especially lately.  But railing against Wall Street because you can't find a well paying job isn't going to fix your problems. That's why I agree completely with presidential candidate Herman Cain. When asked about the protests, Cain said, "If you don’t have a job and you are not rich, don't blame others, blame yourself.” Cain rightly suggested that those participating in protests nationwide against corporate greed and a lack of jobs are merely doing so out of "jealousy." Jealousy over seeing others that have something that they do not themselves, and they want some of it. One way or another.

[This "blame someone else for your failures"attitude has been promoted now by our great leader Obama, who has been blaming his opposition party for the fact he can't get anything done(when in fact he had two years in full party control), and blaming the rich and successful for not contributing enough (when in fact the wealthiest Americans already pay an inordinant amount of tax compared to people like the protesters and myself). Obama's whiney victimesque stance has falsely portrayed himself as the good guy who can't help you because the bad guys (Republicans) are so mean and evil, they won't let him do all the wonderful great things he wants to do. What an utter crock of sh*t. His 'blame others' policy and constant 'tax the wealthy more' rhetoric has fostered and produced this class divisive attitude that is at the heart of the occupy Wall Street protests. That is just one reason why we desperately need a president who doesn't use his office and his words to divide our country like this lazy, arrogant, double-talking trickster who cares about only one job, his own.]

Back to Herman Cain and what he said. This isn't some silver-spoon born Donald Trump type billionaire saying these things to the protesters, this is a man who grew up in poverty, faced racial discrimination, and by his own hard work and effort, over many years he built his own successes, and after several successful business endeavors, I think he has the right to say what he said. Because the "American Dream" isn't supposed to be an easy road. No, it is a road of opportunity that you have to forge for yourself. That road is always an uphill one.

Like him or not, Herman Cain spoke the truth. Calm down and listen to him.

Herman Cain knows hard times and what it takes to become successful. Says Cain, "No one has to tell me about the challenges involved with pursuing success when you are born without a lot of advantages, or to a family without a lot of money. That is the story of my life. I achieved success in business because I worked hard, studied hard, set goals, honed my strategy, weathered setbacks and kept at it no matter what. Sometimes those setbacks occurred because, at least it seemed to me, someone didn’t treat me fairly. But I quickly learned that this, too, is part of life. Complaining about it won’t help you. Devising strategies to overcome it will."

Sounds like the truth to me, and a reasonable bit of wisdom offered to the young and disenchanted protesters.

So why the anger over his comments, accurate and straight forward as they may be? Because hard work and sacrifice is something very unfamiliar to this "Why Me" generation. Having had life relatively easy thus far, and now facing tough times, they would rather hold their breath and stamp their feet until mommy or daddy gives in and lets them have their way. Just like spoiled brats.

Attrocious behavior caught on camera as an elderly Jewish man asks a protester why here is there
"For $7.00 an hour?"..."You got the MONEY!..."

Anarchy will not bring about order. By it's nature, anarchy destroys order. If you seek your own destruction, go to it, but leave the rest of us out of it.

Look, I am not unsympathetic to people who are genuinely suffering. I am one of them. I am unhappy about lots of things too. I need a good paying job, better healthcare, and all the trappings of the so-called american dream. We all want a better life. I don't deny that life is hard for most of us right now. But, people, listen to reason: Months long protests on the streets of New York isn't going to make any of that better! How can anyone expect that these protests will change any of these issues for the better? You want to fascilitate change for the better? Do it the way the rest of America does it, let your voice be heard in the realm of local and then national government elections, and vote for the people that you want to represent you. That's democracy, plain and true. If you don't like the candidates, then run for yourself. If you don't want to have your voice heard that way, then just go home and pack another bong hit and be quiet, won't you? Get out of the street so the rest of us can use the sidewalks to look for the jobs you won't take. And take a shower already.

For those involved who believe they are doing the right thing, who want a better way of life, who are looking to do good, I can dig it. I don't have a problem with speaking out for what you believe. I am fine with free speech and protests. Some causes are worthy. This one, not so much. I get it, and I understand the driving desire for something better. I just totally disagree with your methods.
Please think again.

NYPD is being forced into confrontations such as the march over the Brooklyn Bridge. The police are only trying to do their job.

Whatever these new protesters are hoping to achieve by occupying Wall Street, it is probably inevitable that the change they will actually affect is a widening social gap and a larger police state needed to crack down on such civil unrest and displays of anarchy. Thanks, protesters. Great. Your little stink party in the streets is going to f*ck up everything for the rest of us, if you aren't careful. And clearly, you aren't. The government already has scores of empty containment camps just waiting for any anti-American deemed type elements to be ushered into them. Do you want the top bunk or the bottom bunk? Soon, none of us will be able to speak out without immediate repercussions and silencing. So, keep beating those drums, rainbowhead. Beat them as we all get marched in line to the new American dream you're about to usher in.

Basically, these protesters are occupying the wrong street. They should be gathered at Pennsylvania Ave., to protest no jobs and a failed economic policy. The buck stops there, or so I've been told.

Why blame Wall Street? Go set your tents up on President Obama's doorstep

No, it is Obama's policies that have caused this mess

Who is behind the mask, people?
"I want to manipulate you with, puppets!"

Dear protesters:
You don't want to be sheeple, you want to be people, right? Then why do you jump like a puppet on a string when some online ad tells you to go to Wall Street? So, ever think about who's pulling those strings?
 Think for yourself much? Try it, it's liberating.

Great put it to use

The Origins of the Occupy Wall Street protests

Before the protest began, as far back as July, it was vaguely planned and vague messages were posted, tweeted, and forwarded to every would-be anarchist, saying basically, it's time for us to have one of those awesome Tahrir Square (Egypt) type let's go protest something....we'll figure out what exactly what later, but when we do, it'll change our democracy for the better... this effort is a contrived type of 'spontaneously' organized event, with no clear aim or agenda, other than to protest something. Anything.
That's why there's no clear of cohesive message even after months of planning and over 3 weeks of protesting!

This Freudian poster graphic implies that even the protesters don't know what they are protesting about

Here is the actual call to arms, if you will, posted on July 13, 2011.
Take a close look at some of the language:

Adbusters Blog


Are you ready for a Tahrir movement?
On September 17th, flood into lower Manhattan, set up tents,
kitchens, peaceful barricades and occupy Wall Street.

Alright you 90,000 redeemers, rebels and radicals out there,

A worldwide shift in revolutionary tactics is underway right now that bodes well for the future. The spirit of this fresh tactic, a fusion of Tahrir with the acampadas of Spain, is captured in this quote:

"The antiglobalization movement was the first step on the road. Back then our model was to attack the system like a pack of wolves. There was an alpha male, a wolf who led the pack, and those who followed behind. Now the model has evolved. Today we are one big swarm of people."
— Raimundo Viejo, Pompeu Fabra University
Barcelona, Spain

The beauty of this new formula, and what makes this novel tactic exciting, is its pragmatic simplicity: we talk to each other in various physical gatherings and virtual people's assemblies … we zero in on what our one demand will be, a demand that awakens the imagination and, if achieved, would propel us toward the radical democracy of the future … and then we go out and seize a square of singular symbolic significance and put our asses on the line to make it happen.

The time has come to deploy this emerging stratagem against the greatest corrupter of our democracy: Wall Street, the financial Gomorrah of America.

On September 17, we want to see 20,000 people flood into lower Manhattan, set up tents, kitchens, peaceful barricades and occupy Wall Street for a few months. Once there, we shall incessantly repeat one simple demand in a plurality of voices.

Tahrir succeeded in large part because the people of Egypt made a straightforward ultimatum – that Mubarak must go – over and over again until they won. Following this model, what is our equally uncomplicated demand?

The most exciting candidate that we've heard so far is one that gets at the core of why the American political establishment is currently unworthy of being called a democracy: we demand that Barack Obama ordain a Presidential Commission tasked with ending the influence money has over our representatives in Washington. It's time for DEMOCRACY NOT CORPORATOCRACY, we're doomed without it.

Who would think this was a good idea?
I mean, really?

By the way, did you read it correctly? Yes, they plan to stay for MONTHS...

Even though there was originally no clear agenda decided other than to protest SOMETHING, the best idea they could think up was a lame slogan like Democracy Not Corporatocracy. And even with this, after blowing the radical anarchist trumpet call to arms, when every protest loving person showed up, they showed up with their own ideas and perceptions of what they were protesting anyway. That is why the movement is an incoherent, incohesive conglomeration of every known radical thought ever protested before.

Here's a soundbite from one protester that tries to explain why the protesters are there:

"I've heard the word 'demands' a lot here and I don't care for the word 'demands'. Makes it sound like a hostage situation. I think what's going on here - I like it more that we're accumulating a 'things-to-do' list. There are hundreds of agendas here and that people are able to come and speak to those agendas is what's going on. There's a large sign over here that says, "The medium is our message". I made that sign, over that way. The medium is this gathering, the medium is painting a sign. That's what people are doing, people are speaking out and saying something is not right. I think that is the most important thing right now. Agendas can come later."

Finally, a protester holds up a clear list of demands

Later, another protester came up with 13 demands to try and attach to the protests.
Ready? Here they are:

Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

Demand four: Free college education.

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.

Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

I've taken the liberty of adding 2 more demands to round it up to 15.

Demand 14: Cookies and ice cream whenever we want.


Demand 15: We can stay out as late as we want, and watch TV all night if we want to, and not have to go to school the next day if we feel like it. And you can't make us go over to Grandma and Grandpa's when we have plans with our friends. And we want a new pony...and the new Twilight DVD.

We're so oppressed and poor we play dress up...what fun

Protesters in Chicago join the protests around the country

Anger issues

So basically, if you are angry or upset about something, anything at all, go to Wall Street and join with hundreds more just like you who are not content with their life, and are looking for someone to blame for their problems, or if you are young and aimless and feel you deserve some of all that money that you've heard so much about, if you've been going to college and now after drinking hard and partying harder and now that you've joined the real world and discovered it isn't as easy as you thought it should be, and you can't afford to pay back your student loans, then by all means, pack up your pup tent and your patchouli, put in your best nose ring and slip on your hemp hoodie and head over to Wall Street and, if you shout loud enough, if your sign is clever enough, maybe, just maybe, those mean rich people with all that money will give you some, too.

 After all, they have lots of it, and you don't have any. It's only fair, right?

This sums it all up


  1. I think that it says something about how truly out-of-touch the President is that he encourages and is encouraged by these OccupySomething protests. He and the Democratic Party more generally need the support of America's political center, but that center sees these protests pretty much for what they are. The protesters are an albatross, and the Republicans would be wise to tie that albatross around the President's neck, if he weren't already doing that for them.

  2. Well put, Daniel. The rumor is that a large part if not all of the forces behind the OWS movement have ties that, at least in the past have been very pro Obama (the labor unions, for one, G. Soros, and which might explain why the target is Wall St. and not the White House and Obama, who should shoulder any blame for the countries present economic woes. Nancy Pelosi and Obama are aligning themselves with the protesters in a transparent attempt to gain their sympathy and garner their support for the Dems in the upcoming election. The problem with that strategy is that these radicals have widely varying views on politics overall, ranging from socialism and communism to straight up anarchy. Most have a bitter distaste for mainstream political discourse. So that albatross around Obama's neck has teeth and is likely to peck out his own eyes.

    Another ironic truth lies in the fact that these protesters who are complaining about tough economic times are causing extreme financial woes to the people of New York (and where ever the other protests are being staged). The police are being forced to spend time dealing with them (they don't want confrontations, they just want them to go away), causing massive manpower shortages and shifting needs to the protesters when more pressing public and criminal concerns are being left unanswered. Garbage is piling up in the streets. Most tragic is local businesses are being inundated with endless droves of rude and disrespectful radicals who trash their restrooms, disrupt normal business and drive away customers, causing mounting losses to these already struggling local businesses. Patience is wearing thin, and if these zealots stay as long as they planned, I believe violence will begin to break out more and more, on both sides.

    Newt Gingrich has made a comment that is accurate:(paraphrase) There are two elements to the protesters; one faction has a symbiotic dynamic relationship to the Tea Party, in that many are responsible and concerned people looking to find real answers, and you can almost tell who they are because they clean up after themselves...the other faction contains those elements that would show up at any protest no matter what the cause, and they are largely identifiable by the fact that they couldn't care less about cleaning up, in fact they are pleased when they have caused others trouble (example: the man who was photographed defecating in public on a police car).

    You mentioned that the center can see these protests for what they are...I wonder. I have been dismayed by the handling of this event by all types of media, and there are those who paint these people as glorified freedom fighters, and the police as villains. The police are only doing their job, and when confronted by a person or a mob that is not respecting authority, breaking a law or seeking publicity by provoking police, the police must use whatever means necessary to stop them before it gets any further out of control. Certainly there are instances where police may have been guilty of using poor judgement, but they have been put in a position of hightened alert and are only human, and part of the radicals strategy is to seek confrontation with police and then play the victim in order to use the publicity to further their own agenda. They see it as a kind of game, which is unfortunate at best, and criminal at worst.

    The distressingly grim reality is that these protests are going to get worse, I believe, until the entire situation degenerates and unravels completely, and nothing good will come of it. Nothing good.

  3. Indeed, portions of the media depict these protests as they would best fit the respective mythologies of those portions. But public distrust in the media is acute. Against those who are soothed by presentations of the protesters as virtuous martyrs and their opponents as villains, there will be both those who prefer rival mythologies and those who want no mythology at all.

    As you say, the protests are going to get worse. And there is still more than a year between now and the next Presidential election, during which the public will watch things degenerate.

    Few people seemed to have learned from the relevant history. The model for these protesters has been those of the '60s, based upon fuzzy and mistaken notions about what those protesters accomplished. In fact, they helped bring to an end the left-wing hegemony that had allowed the Great Society programmes to be put in place. A Republican technocrat repackaged himself as a Law-and-Order guy, and got elected President in '68 and then reëlected in '72. (He was forced from office in 1974, but not by '60s protesters.)

  4. Well written, Apoco-Wurl; I agree with most of it. I'm sure the MEDIA, however, through the selective art of editing, is choosing to post mostly the interviews that make the Protesters look fruity, flaky, incoherent, self-indulgent, or downright we-tah-did. The only other point I'd like to make is~ that one guy got his sign backwards... It will be the Rich, this time, who eat the poor. Once they've been fattened up with corn syrup, dumbed down with inoculations, and stupified with alcohol/pharmaceuticals, who's gonna stop them from serving Roast Redneck at their next Piss-on-the-Poor Banquet ?

  5. Daniel,
    Thank you for your insights, very astute as usual. I don't want to get started on how the duplicitous Great Society author LBJ has been linked (ahem - allegedly, though by serious researchers) to several of the noxious events of the turbulent era of the 60's,(with willing involvement of CIA and others) including several well known assassinations of people whom he deemed dangerous, including JFK, RFK, and MLK. The public to this day has swallowed the manufactured truths and scripted cover stories shaped by collusive and powerful figures of the day. The deeper the investigator chooses to look into these events, the stranger the conspiracies appear to become. Suffice to say, if one cared to seriously delve into such issues, one might begin to discover even more well known and respected names linked to many said conspiracies, including at least in the case of JFK, the name of the afore mentioned Republican technocrat and LBJ successor Richard Nixon, who has earlier career ties to a certain Jack Ruby. The mind of the investigator would likely boggle even further still to note the name of yet another future president linked to JFK's death, a certain G.H.W. stated, the rabbit hole is so dark and deep, and so outrageously unbelieveable that hearing someone mention these things without prior knowledge of them would surely cause the listener to question the sanity of the teller of such tales that, on the face, appear utterly ridiculous. I would only invite everyone to pull back the curtain and begin questioning any such claims for themselves and draw their own conclusions...the bread crumb trail is still viable and astute research can uncover much.

    Whoops. And i said I wouldn't start on LBJ...returning to topic at hand, I only mention LBJ in reference to your comment, and I find it ironic that the social turbulence of his time in office, and then Nixon's, were unquestionably stoked hotter by his own unlawful abuse of power. Aside from the deaths of great men in power and opposition, he was responsible for miring the country deeper into the war in Viet Nam, and it inevitably caused his own downfall as President. Nixon, as alluded to, continued in his own unlawful and secretive activities which when made public, threatened a (justified)mistrust in all government, helped to swing the pendulum towards the left once more. The public however has been mistrustful of government ever since, at least those old enough to remember.

  6. Mr. Lysdexicuss,
    I don't disagree that many interviewed were very young, idealistic, and well-intentioned though woefully inept and ignorant of most factual political reality, and thus terribly inarticulate and therefore not the best to represent their cause(s).
    I tried to note that certain interviews as in the video clip created above were certainly intentionally biased toward that end, and I don't doubt that there are more cogent arguments being made by savvier individuals. I wanted to illustrate more the blind and lemming-like ignorance of many of these protesters, pointing out their easy manipulation by more powerful and sinister forces hiding in the shadows. These hidden puppet masters are giddy with twisted bliss right now as they are witness to the chaotic results of their created subjugation of these willing protesters.
    As to your second point, you threaten to cause me to open up yet another can of conspirational anectdotes...perhaps better saved for another time, and yet...hmmm. Many people with wealth are quite benevolent, good sir. Certainly, not all wealthy people are evil, in fact most probably are not, although we all know the axiom about power corrupting..and yet, to your point...there is truth to be found in certain allegations concerning, simply put, slow and toxic poisons in our food supplies and vaccinations to our children, going on for decades. Chemical additives fed to the masses beyond our vision and nearly beyond our control...serious students can do online investigations on many of these, for instance searches on Aspartame and Flouride will likely shock the many of the physical and mental health disorders so prevalent today have their roots in these bizarre additions to the foods we commonly ingest daily? Children and infants have been documented to have been irrevocably harmed by inoculations containing excessive amounts of mercury, for example. I advise not receiving any unknown inoculations unless on your deathbed.
    Yes, for years unknown someones (plural) have been seeking to control and subjugate the undesirables (in their estimation) of our population, and this frightening subject is yet another deep and dark rabbit hole of conspiracy and mystery...the evidence is visible, the motives undiscernable, other than to control. Just another reason to continue questioning authority and to stop swallowing whole hock the tantalizing propaganda simplistically offered us by a deceptive controlling ruling force.

    Wow. Sounds nuttier than last years fruitcake, but for those with inquiring open minds who are willing to open their eyes and look for the truth hidden behind the facade of contrived 'reality' that we all take for granted without questioning, answers are waiting. Go and find them for yourself.

    Doggone it, Lysdexicuss, see what you made me do?

  7. Ha!
    Daniel, thank you for that link! That is beautiful! A sad but true humorous assessment of our countries hypocritical media bias!